E46 Toronto/Fastlaps Spring Track Day Sign Up

[glenspeed]

Ok, I need to know how many people can commit with deposits to book a track day next spring. Deposits would be $150 asap. There will be a maximum of 25 slots available.

It would be more or less our own day with others as required to fill the slots. I will organize and arrange all the instruction and agenda. It would be a full day from 9am to 5pm.

No extras like pit girls, prizes or 5 star catered lunch, but I will guarantee fun factor like you will never forget.

Beginners, advanced, track virgins or just virgins are welcome.


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[STALKER]

If Im in town, you know Im there. Is this for a e46 day or Fastlaps?

[dieselgrl]

do you know which month you may be holding this event? Are you booking the place already? woot

[STALKER]

Ok, I need to know how many people can commit with deposits to book a track day next spring. Deposits would be $150 asap. There will be a maximum of 25 slots available.

It would be more or less our own day with others as required to fill the slots. I will organize and arrange all the instruction and agenda. It would be a full day from 9am to 5pm.

No extras like pit girls, prizes or 5 star catered lunch, but I will guarantee fun factor like you will never forget.

Beginners, advanced, track virgins or just virgins are welcome.


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2)STALKER, hopefully it happens when Im in town.

[christyles]

When Glen? Spring, I'm in. Winter, not.

[dieselgrl]

i just read the other thread...so it looks like June 2005? i have a scenario for you: what if it rains that day? would it be postponed to another day?

[STALKER]

June 2005 is not the e46tortonto day, if Im reading everythign right. I think he wants to get a e46 date going in Spring. You drive rain or shine. Glen would have to reserve soon to get the desired date, so we would have to get on it right away and give me our cash.

[christyles]

June 2005 is not the e46tortonto day, if Im reading everythign right. I think he wants to get a e46 date going in Spring. You drive rain or shine. Glen would have to reserve soon to get the desired date, so we would have to get on it right away and give me our cash.
Looks like Spring for 2005 for E46. I'm in. Sorry missed that heading.

[STALKER]

So most likely April or May. Hopefully mid April cause I will be home.

[christyles]

So most likely April or May. Hopefully mid April cause I will be home.
That'll be cool. April. Kill my brakes at the track so i have an excuse to get new ones.

[STALKER]

Its always a good excuse.

[alexm520]

i just read the other thread...so it looks like June 2005? i have a scenario for you: what if it rains that day? would it be postponed to another day?

A typical track day (driving school or just "open lapping") is a Go regardless it is sunny or raining; it is not postponed and no refunds. People still go out and drive in the rain, but if you are not comfortable you can sit-out a session and wait until the rain stops.

An exception would be something like 6 inches of ice at Mosport on April 12-13, 2003 which caused BMW Club's April driving school to be cancelled and fees transferred to pay for their June driving school.

[STALKER]

Im hoping BMW car club of Canada has a track school this year when Im home, I have heard good things about them.

[glenspeed]

If Im in town, you know Im there. Is this for a e46 day or Fastlaps?

This is for the E46 Toronto guys/gals plus anybody else I need to fill 25 slots.

Fastlaps will be another day, most likely June 30th again.

[glenspeed]

do you know which month you may be holding this event? Are you booking the place already? woot

No month booked yet. That is why I need to know from you guys/gals which month is preferred. Either May, July or August.

June will be my official Fastlaps day and you will all have a chance to go to that one to space limiting.

This one is just for the E46 TO members.

[glenspeed]

Sounds like end of May might be a date??

[christyles]

Sounds like end of May might be a date??
I like May. My b-day is in May. This track day will be a b-day gift to myself. Bwahahahahah.

[STALKER]

Im here the first week of May, do it then, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[STALKER]

April 15th to May 6th to be exact.

[BMW3]

which track will the meet be at?

[glenspeed]

The track will be at Shannonville. 1.5hrs from TO.

I like Shannonville because:

1) I know it like the back of my hand
2) You can easily divide the track into two separate tracks for beginners/advanced
3) Very technical track with good mix of high and low speed turns
4) Good track for learning on
5) Lots of run-off and not alot of walls to hit (unlike Mosport)
6) Decent size track that allows you to observe the whole track from any vantage point. (if you don't see the whole track, you will need corner workers stationed)
7) Restaurant/snack bar on site

[Cabrio]

Will there be instructors to teach us newbies basic techiques?

Or perhaps Glenspeed will be our instructor?

[glenspeed]

Will there be instructors to teach us newbies basic techiques?

Or perhaps Glenspeed will be our instructor?

Yes, I will be an instructor and depending on how may beginners will have others. My ratio is not more than 1 instructor to 3-5 beginners.

[BlueSky]

I should be in...
give me an exact date and I'll confirm... ;)

so... the first 3-5 beginners who signed up will get Glen as an instructor
I NEED AN INSTRUCTOR!!!

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[christyles]

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[STALKER]

Glen,
So is this going to possibly happen within the dates I listed??? I think it was April 15th to May 6th.

[Jersey]

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[christyles]

Woohoo. 1st batch done. We got Asian Glen as our instrutor. woot woot woot

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[STALKER]

I got instruction last time, so Im good to go this time. Glen's buddy Aly helped me around the track last time.

[Cabrio]

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I'm still in the first batch, right!! Glenspeed said he can take 5 people.

I'm in only if Glenspeed will take me in as his apprentice.

[STALKER]

Glen is not that good of a driver, lolol. Joking buddy.

[alexm520]

I'm in only if Glenspeed will take me in as his apprentice.

From what I understand, Glen makes his apprentice(s) wash his car before and after the event and call him "Mr Glen" :D

And instead of firing you, he locks you up in the trunk or makes you walk home from Shannonville. (LOL)

[STALKER]

He actually makes you call him "Big Poppa".

[glenspeed]

very funny guys...

actually I make you pick up pylons when the advanced drivers are on the track and give them 5 points for every hit! I also paint a big "X" on your window so that the other drivers know what to aim for... bahhh ha ha

[glenspeed]

I got instruction last time, so Im good to go this time. Glen's buddy Aly helped me around the track last time.

Ali isn't actually an instructor, he's a decent driver, but not advanced at least for track work...he helps me out for Fastlaps but he is notquite advanced enough yet to really teach. Pej, hopefully you can go out with me or another instructor in their cars next spring and we can really show you the lines. woot

[STALKER]

So is the e46 one gonna happen when Im around or what?
I went around with you too, with one of your lady sponsors, she was driving the Jetta.

[christyles]

He actually makes you call him "Big Poppa".
I ain't calling nobody Big Poppa.

Let's get back on topic and get more registrants. I'm looking forward to this. woot

[STALKER]

Rules are rules Chris. lolol. Im just waiting to find out if Im in town when this is going down, totally pumped about it.

[dieselgrl]

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I'm still in the first batch, right!! Glenspeed said he can take 5 people.

I'm in only if Glenspeed will take me in as his apprentice.
Does that mean I'm too late to be included in the first beginner batch? I'm a beginner and need one on one instructions :blaaaa: I''ll sign-up only if i get glenspeed as an instructor. If not, I will pass ;)

[STALKER]

Im sure Glen will have other instructors there, no worries ppl. I got some seat time with his friend from Montreal that drives a 350Z, not only was he a very quick driver but a very nice guy.

[glenspeed]

Does that mean I'm too late to be included in the first beginner batch? I'm a beginner and need one on one instructions :blaaaa: I''ll sign-up only if i get glenspeed as an instructor. If not, I will pass ;)

Don't worry Di, I'll be able to give everyone from E46TO instruction. Don't worry I'll give you one on one instruction... :wink2: :blaaaa:

My other instructors are also just as qualified and have lots of experience as well, so we'll go on a rotation basis if we have alot of beginners.

[M333ee]

Can I take the CR-V on the track :crying:

[glenspeed]

Im sure Glen will have other instructors there, no worries ppl. I got some seat time with his friend from Montreal that drives a 350Z, not only was he a very quick driver but a very nice guy.

Yes, everyone is very nice....otherwise your BANNED!

It's a very casual relaxed atmosphere with absolutely no pressure to drive "fast". Everyone, even the professional racers are there to improve and learn something. If we were all the best drivers and had nothing to learn, we would be in F1 and racing against Schumacher!

What I will guarantee you is that by the end of the day, you will be a better driver and be able to negotiate the track faster than when you got there and have a new appreciation for your car and your driving skills.

[glenspeed]

Can I take the CR-V on the track :crying:

I might have to make a "special" session just for you Eric and clear the track in case you roll over on someone ha ha... :blaaaa:

[STALKER]

so any idea what dates you are looking at?

[glenspeed]

it's all open now, so any date. but I need enough commitments before I reserve the date.

[STALKER]

Well Im down 100% and Im in town from April 15th to May 6th.

[glenspeed]

how about closer to end of May? (thinking warmer, dryer...maybe)

[STALKER]

won't be here, but you guys do what you guys have to do. I will most likely be back in Cayman by the end of May, keeping my fingers crossed.

[dieselgrl]

Don't worry I'll give you one on one instruction... :wink2: :blaaaa:
Cool...I'm in if i'm in your session. :D ...or if i at least get some personal on-road training from you :wink2: :blaaaa: :yak:

May is a good month...will this be over a saturday or sunday? i don't think i can make it on a weekday.

[glenspeed]

won't be here, but you guys do what you guys have to do. I will most likely be back in Cayman by the end of May, keeping my fingers crossed.

most likely? so not definate? any other dates you are back?

[glenspeed]

Cool...I'm in if i'm in your session. :D ...or if i at least get some personal on-road training from you :wink2: :blaaaa: :yak:

May is a good month...will this be over a saturday or sunday? i don't think i can make it on a weekday.

well, weekday is preferred because of cost. weekends also book very quickly.
my preference is a weekday...hey you will have 6 months notice...just put it in your vacation calendar asap!

[STALKER]

My time off is those dates listed, Im due back in the hospital May 6 or 7th I think, its a Saturday. Then I won't be back after that till mid August or so. I would love to come with yall, but I understand if my schedule does not work for everyone.

[glenspeed]

My time off is those dates listed, Im due back in the hospital May 6 or 7th I think, its a Saturday. Then I won't be back after that till mid August or so. I would love to come with yall, but I understand if my schedule does not work for everyone.

call in sick! :blaaaa:

[STALKER]

I don't get that luxury, I would be setting a bad example. Plus my supervisor would get pissed because then he/she would have to do work that they load off on me.

[rost12]

Hey. I skipped the second page, so I'm sorry if I missed the cut-off, but can I make it in? A full day with a relatively small group sounds like fun.

Let me know if I can get in on this and how I'm going to transfer my precious greenies to ya :)

[glenspeed]

Hey. I skipped the second page, so I'm sorry if I missed the cut-off, but can I make it in? A full day with a relatively small group sounds like fun.

Let me know if I can get in on this and how I'm going to transfer my precious greenies to ya :)

No probs Rost...just sign up!

[glenspeed]

I don't get that luxury, I would be setting a bad example. Plus my supervisor would get pissed because then he/she would have to do work that they load off on me.

....too bad...you're going to be a doctor so you have to get used to taking days off for golf no? :1nono:

[STALKER]

For sure, but thats when I have 10 residents working under me and giving them all the work do to, for now Im the one doing all the work and my supervisor is playing golf.

[glenspeed]

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[glenspeed]

Eric, Jessica I don't see you guys there!!!!!!!! :Idunno:

[RagingLamb]

You can sign me up too :thumbsup:

[glenspeed]

You can sign me up too :thumbsup:

ok, keep in mind this means committing the $150 up front so I can book the track now. We cannot wait until we get closer as most full days are booked by end of January.

[glenspeed]

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[M333ee]

Eric, Jessica I don't see you guys there!!!!!!!! :Idunno:

As much as I would love to, I don't think the M3 will ever see the track :crying:

Can I watch / take video's :o

[Cabrio]

Come on Eric, you gotta show off your M power.

If I'm doing it with my powerless automatic, you must do it. Your car is MADE for it.


As much as I would love to, I don't think the M3 will ever see the track :crying:

Can I watch / take video's :o

[Jersey]

ok, keep in mind this means committing the $150 up front so I can book the track now. We cannot wait until we get closer as most full days are booked by end of January.

hey glen

i really want to do this and im really excited, but i hope to be working by then and i dont know if i will be able to get the time off, in the event that i am unable to get the time off work, can i sell my spot to someone else? or is the space reserved in my name and not transferable??

[glenspeed]

hey glen

i really want to do this and im really excited, but i hope to be working by then and i dont know if i will be able to get the time off, in the event that i am unable to get the time off work, can i sell my spot to someone else? or is the space reserved in my name and not transferable??

really the reservation is made so that I can book the track and have it paid for without me trying to find others to make up the $$$ at the last minute or worse me paying for it, since it's all on my credit card. If at the end of the day, there are more people that want to come in, then it would be very easy to sell your spot or even refund your money, but it all depends on how many people I get at the end of the day. Realistically, it's not that difficult to sell your spot if you can't make it...however, for me I would say at this point the spot is non-refundable since the deposit for the track is not either.

[glenspeed]

As much as I would love to, I don't think the M3 will ever see the track :crying:

Can I watch / take video's :o

If anything you should take the car to the track, it will only improve your driving skills and your knowledge of what the car can do.

To make you feel better, the day is very organized and not a free for all with crazy drivers trying to be the fastest of the day. I don't tolerate pressure driving and only allow for proper, well spaced passing in designated zones. Beginners always go on the track with an instructor, unless they have in the opinion of the instructor good enough to go on their own. Beginners also start off with a off-track instruction session going through all the basics of track driving. We start off slow with instructor lead-follow in instructor cars, then have separate beginner sessions with an instructors in students' cars showing them the lines and proper places to brake, turn and accelerate.
There have been many beginners go through my event and all of them have come back wanting more! Not all are performance cars and certainly not all with M3 performance potential, so really anyone with any ability can come and appreciate track driving.

[Jersey]

really the reservation is made so that I can book the track and have it paid for without me trying to find others to make up the $$$ at the last minute or worse me paying for it, since it's all on my credit card. If at the end of the day, there are more people that want to come in, then it would be very easy to sell your spot or even refund your money, but it all depends on how many people I get at the end of the day. Realistically, it's not that difficult to sell your spot if you can't make it...however, for me I would say at this point the spot is non-refundable since the deposit for the track is not either.

well with that being said i guess take me off the list...but do know i am really excited to do this and still have full intention of doing so....thing is, with a new career and not holding normal business hours (real estate agent) i just cant commit to anything right now...hopefully closer to the time ill know! but i do hope to make it!!!

[STALKER]

Im sure M3 Ali will come too, especially now that he has the BBK and the SSR comps.

[glenspeed]

Im sure M3 Ali will come too, especially now that he has the BBK and the SSR comps.

yah he better since he was saying he was turning his machine into a track demon...I think he was looking at a full ground control kit (swaybars too) on fanatics the other day...

[STALKER]

big bad Mr D. Now if his girl lets him out, that is another story.

[glenspeed]

can we say pwhipped??? :0

[STALKER]

His girl is persian, so I feel his pain.

[M333ee]

big bad Mr D. Now if his girl lets him out, that is another story.

Mr.D is Ali?

I PM'd him about his wantd to buy post for oem 18's :confused2

[carbonM3]

Ok, I need to know how many people can commit with deposits to book a track day next spring. Deposits would be $150 asap. There will be a maximum of 25 slots available.

It would be more or less our own day with others as required to fill the slots. I will organize and arrange all the instruction and agenda. It would be a full day from 9am to 5pm.

No extras like pit girls, prizes or 5 star catered lunch, but I will guarantee fun factor like you will never forget.

Beginners, advanced, track virgins or just virgins are welcome.


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hey glen...i want to save a spot....i am in mexico right now so cant read teh whole thread talk when i get back

sean

[glenspeed]

hey glen...i want to save a spot....i am in mexico right now so cant read teh whole thread talk when i get back

sean

no problem Sean. you're in!

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[BlueSky]

how many people do we need for the ideal cost per person / # of cars on track ratio???

[glenspeed]

how many people do we need for the ideal cost per person / # of cars on track ratio???

I would like to have no more than 25 people @ $150 pp

[STALKER]

I have some friends from Montreal that might come, I ask them tonight. They run highly modified S2000s.

[glenspeed]

so it's looking like weekend is preferred over weekday...that means more expensive but then you don't need to take a vacation day!

ok, so weekend in May?

deposit will need to go up to $200. can I assume everyone that signed up is still in?

[christyles]

so it's looking like weekend is preferred over weekday...that means more expensive but then you don't need to take a vacation day!

ok, so weekend in May?

deposit will need to go up to $200. can I assume everyone that signed up is still in?
Hmmm.... Glen, at that, that's something I can't shell out now as an advance. Not with the holidays coming up & all. I may have to withdraw at $200. Sorry Glen. :(

[glenspeed]

Hmmm.... Glen, at that, that's something I can't shell out now as an advance. Not with the holidays coming up & all. I may have to withdraw at $200. Sorry Glen. :(


what?? don't drink so much the next week!!!

[STALKER]

come on folks, you can do a week day. Glen is giving you 4 to 5 months notice.

[BlueSky]

i still prefer a weekday over a weekend...
but i'll just go along with the majority... when is it due for payment?

[STALKER]

Glen, I have absolutely no problem giving you the cash buddy, but I need to know the date, to see if Im gonna be here or not. Let me know the date, and if Im here, I will give you the cash when I get back into town. You know Im good for it.

[BlueSky]

glen, why don't u propose a few exact dates for us to choose from?
late April/early May sounds good... not too hot.. yet...

[christyles]

what?? don't drink so much the next week!!!

LOL! I have my liquor stock here at home. If there was a liquor ban, I'm not worrying.

No bro... Angel's b-day & christmas is coming up and to shell out even $150 in a December was pushing it.

If the dates change to weekday, I may reconsider. But weekend, def out.

[oyster]

so it's looking like weekend is preferred over weekday...that means more expensive but then you don't need to take a vacation day!

ok, so weekend in May?

deposit will need to go up to $200. can I assume everyone that signed up is still in?

people, just take your entitled sick days (I think 6 days per year).....

[glenspeed]

glen, why don't u propose a few exact dates for us to choose from?
late April/early May sounds good... not too hot.. yet...


How about Saturday April 30th?

[christyles]

people, just take your entitled sick days (I think 6 days per year).....
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[glenspeed]

Hmmm.... Glen, at that, that's something I can't shell out now as an advance. Not with the holidays coming up & all. I may have to withdraw at $200. Sorry Glen. :(

Sorry, what I mean to say is that the total cost will go up to $214. Deposit still $150.

Here are the numbers so everyone can see:
Track rental weekday - $3745 = $150 per person 25 people
Track rental weekend - $5350 = $214 per person 25 people

personally I would prefer a weekend for $50 more that way we don't have to worry about work things coming up or vacation/sick days!

[STALKER]

Im down for April 30th, 100%.

[Jersey]

holy crap, im going to build a friggin track! these places make a fortune!!!!

[STALKER]

I bet places like Mosport are twice as much.

[glenspeed]

I bet places like Mosport are twice as much.

Mosport is twice as much if you can get it. They hold alot of big races there so that's alot of weekends gone. It's also a very big track with no site lines to all corners so way more work and help needed to run a day there. Also it is a difficult track to master and lots of walls to hit if you screw up. It's also a higher speed track so if something does go wrong...it's not a great beginner track let's put it that way. Shannonville has alot of grass versus walls and has lots of technical corners with slow, medium and high speed corners, great track for beginners and advanced alike.

[glenspeed]

holy crap, im going to build a friggin track! these places make a fortune!!!!

yes, we should build a track...you will see come January, all the dates open today will be gone and you can forget the whole summer...maybe late October if you are lucky. Two years ago, for Fastlaps I called in Feb and could only get early October!

[STALKER]

so let us know when you have a date for sure. Thanks for setting this up buddy. This is a lot of work. April 30th is good for me. Come on ppl, lets get this going. Will be a lot of fun for begginers and advanced.

[dieselgrl]

hey glen...i want to save a spot....i am in mexico right now so cant read teh whole thread talk when i get back

sean
cool! I was going to sign-up for you b/c you were in sunny mexico...but i didn't know if you were definitely in. Why are you checkin the forum?!?! you should be enjoying the beach :D

[dieselgrl]

I am in either way...weekday...weekend...whatever. I prefer weekends...but majority rules...so I'm cool either way. If it's a weekday in April/May...I may have to give up my spot later on.

[glenspeed]

E46 Toronto Track Day
Tentative Date - Saturday April 30th, 2005
Shannonville Motorsport Park
Combination of Nelson/Fabi circuit in morning and Pro Track in afternoon
Cost p.p. (based on 25): $214
Deposit soon: $150

Come on, let's get the number up to 25!!!!

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[christyles]

Would it be better to the track day in 16" contis or my 17" duns?

[glenspeed]

Would it be better to the track day in 16" contis or my 17" duns?

what exact tires are on each? honestly for beginners it won't make a big difference unless you care which tires wear a bit more...

the 17's will probably feel more responsive because of the lower sidewall and maybe offer more grip because of the stiffer sidewall...but we are not racing here, just learning so whatever wheel you want to go with..

[christyles]

what exact tires are on each? honestly for beginners it won't make a big difference unless you care which tires wear a bit more...

the 17's will probably feel more responsive because of the lower sidewall and maybe offer more grip because of the stiffer sidewall...but we are not racing here, just learning so whatever wheel you want to go with..
I have the 16" type 45 rims with those Continentals that came with the car from the dealership.

The other one is Dunlop 8080 something like that 245 something something.
If it doesnt matter then'll I'll wear out the conti's first.

Thanks Glen.

[STALKER]

Why is Anthony not on that list, Im calling him out.
I know he said he didnt want to go on the track but its a great time!!! We have to convince him to come.

[christyles]

Why is Anthony not on that list, Im calling him out.
I know he said he didnt want to go on the track but its a great time!!! We have to convince him to come.
Bring a box of shoes, and he'll show up for sure.

[STALKER]

Shoes???
Glen, I have one friend with a Lexus IS300 that said he will come and I might have one more. He has never been to a track before, so he will have to be in the begginers section.

[christyles]

Shoes???

Anthony has serious shoe fetish. Careful Pej. You may want to go barefoot or flip flop slippers on track day.

[STALKER]

LOL. Flip flops and tack days are a big no no. I can't wait. BMWCC usually holds a track event in mid april too, so hopefully I can get to that one too before this unless they are on the same date.

[glenspeed]

Shoes???
Glen, I have one friend with a Lexus IS300 that said he will come and I might have one more. He has never been to a track before, so he will have to be in the begginers section.

that's fine. most of the E46 crew except Alex I think are newbies...

[glenspeed]

Anthony has serious shoe fetish. Careful Pej. You may want to go barefoot or flip flop slippers on track day.

maybe he would like to see these?? Red ones are mine...

http://sportscar-parts.com/graphics/00000001/Sparco_Racing_shoes.gif

[Jersey]

that's fine. most of the E46 crew except Alex I think are newbies...

BlueSky has track experience too....so does saridi

[glenspeed]

BlueSky has track experience too....so does saridi

great!

[christyles]

maybe he would like to see these?? Red ones are mine...

http://sportscar-parts.com/graphics/00000001/Sparco_Racing_shoes.gif
Screw your Sparco's Glen. Anthony likes these. :blaaaa:

Ok back to topic now. :yak:

[BlueSky]

BlueSky has track experience too....so does saridi

I only have TRACK DRIVING experience... no skills at all...
DOH... :1nono:

[STALKER]

This is gonna be a great event. Looking forward to it with all my e46toronto bretherin.

[glenspeed]

This is gonna be a great event. Looking forward to it with all my e46toronto bretherin.

Pej, if you get confirms/commitments from your buddies in MTL, put them down on the sign up list so we can track the numbers.

[SaRiDi]

I only have TRACK DRIVING experience... no skills at all...
DOH... :1nono:
So do I....plus my MB definitely not a machine can track. :^o:

[BlueSky]

So do I....plus my MB definitely not a machine can track. :^o:

time to trade in for another car... :devil:
oh well.. if a Corolla tracks too... nothing else can't track... (no offense to Corolla drives :wink2: )

[STALKER]

I will be checking with the Montreal boyz.

[glenspeed]

seeing some of the posts let me make this comment:

this is not a racing day nor will there be any racing allowed. what this day is for is to have so much fun you can't take it anymore in a controlled, learning environment. It will be very casual and everyone will have more track time then they will be able to use (trust me on this one). It's certainly not about who has the fastest car or the best track car, if most people attending are not track veterans or even first timers, also trust me on this one, I could take you out in a Corolla (no disrepect to Corolla owners, but since that example was used) and you would be soiling your undergarments...

so that being said, everyone is welcome regardless of the performance of their vehicle!

[STALKER]

well said Glen. I remember over at Maxbimmer they had a Battleendless event, and some ppl got a little upset with me when I asked what sort of event it was and what sort of ppl were going . Its important who is out there with you, well to make long story short, they had a serious wreck that day and a few close calls.
Glen runs a very good lap event and I felt completely safe, as long as I was working within my own skill level.

[glenspeed]

trust me, if it's your name signing the track agreement, you don't want yahoos going on the track...

I don't necessarily like to go on the track myself with people that have something to prove.

Pej, if you remember that some of the people that came to Fastlaps last year were actual professional racers, 1 was chief Porsche club instructor, another was a former Porsche racer, etc...it was some of the most controlled driving you will ever see...also you know they could go alot faster, but what for? They are there to have fun as well, not to prove anything...

[STALKER]

Yup I remember, and as a beginner I felt totally comfortable on the track with them,even though they were going much faster than I was, it was a great day.

[Jersey]

glenn i think what hann was talking about is the same thing you are trying to say....he means it doent matter what kind of car you have, anyone can go out to the track and have a good time. saridi, bluesky and a friend (who owned an old corolla) went to the track and had an amazing time. im really looking forward to this day...i just hope i can make it

[glenspeed]

Yup I remember, and as a beginner I felt totally comfortable on the track with them,even though they were going much faster than I was, it was a great day.

that's it, I want everyone to feel comfortable about going on the track. I know from alot of experience that most people are nervous enough as it is, if it is their first time (even though there is nothing to be nervous about), so making it a casual, easygoing experience will ensure that after the event, they are hooked! Anyone that has come to my track days the first time, has always wanted to come back.

[glenspeed]

glenn i think what hann was talking about is the same thing you are trying to say....he means it doent matter what kind of car you have, anyone can go out to the track and have a good time. saridi, bluesky and a friend (who owned an old corolla) went to the track and had an amazing time. im really looking forward to this day...i just hope i can make it

cool! I remember one of my instructors' old cars was a beat up '97 VW Golf with 4 season tires. He made that car fly around the track...turn 1 at Shannonville was on 3 wheels all the way around! woot

[Jersey]

lol thats great...i was talking to Hann last night about the track etc....and was complaining about my tires (stock conti's) and how i need breaks etc....but i guess it doesnt really matter....i can still have fun right?

[glenspeed]

lol thats great...i was talking to Hann last night about the track etc....and was complaining about my tires (stock conti's) and how i need breaks etc....but i guess it doesnt really matter....i can still have fun right?

for sure! I also had one of my attendees drive up 2 years ago in a Chrysler Sebring sedan and we took that on the track!

[STALKER]

so is the date finalized yet?

[BlueSky]

you "don't" need to push your car to the limit Jersey... :D
I think the car can take higer limit that what we can perform as a beginner... of course not any stupid move like cornering way over speed...

[BlueSky]

I remember over at Maxbimmer they had a Battleendless event, and some ppl got a little upset with me when I asked what sort of event it was and what sort of ppl were going . Its important who is out there with you, well to make long story short, they had a serious wreck that day and a few close calls.

I went to that one.. it s*****... crazy driver all around, track way too crowded, I think over 50 cars showed up...

minor accidents here and there... and then a big one happend and track was closed down... a 3 hours session terminted in 1.5 hours... :thumbsdow :mad:

[STALKER]

I went to that one.. it s*****... crazy driver all around, track way too crowded, I think over 50 cars showed up...

minor accidents here and there... and then a big one happend and track was closed down... a 3 hours session terminted in 1.5 hours... :thumbsdow :mad:
At lease the guy who flipped his car was OK. I remember ppl got all pissy when I started asking questions about the organization of the event. I didnt have a good feeling about it, so good think I passed on it. At lease you came out unscaved.

[glenspeed]

so is the date finalized yet?

I think the agreed date is Saturday April 30th. I still need more commitments before it is booked because of the non-refundability of the deposit.

[STALKER]

sweet, April 30th is kewl, me and my scratched bumper will be there. Hopefully it will be fixed and the lip will be on it.

[Jersey]

maybe you should set up a poll for weekend vs weekday? just a thought

[STALKER]

Glen, so far its me + 2, but I will confirm my +2 in the next day or two. I told them they have to be 100% sure.

[glenspeed]

cool, that's what the deposit is for! to make them more sure! :blaaaa:

[glenspeed]

maybe you should set up a poll for weekend vs weekday? just a thought

it would probably be more relevant if there were alot more people from this board out of the total. so far it's 9/25, so not sure that it would be "statistically significant". It think for the most part, a weekend is agreed to be alot easier for people to attend and avoid things coming up at work at the last minute or needing to take a vacation/sick day. I think for the extra $ pp, most people would prefer that.

[STALKER]

ya, I just dont want them to confirm, then give me the run around when I want the deposit. One of them is close friend of mine, so he is a safe bet, the other one is my friends friend, so that why I want them to be really sure and then give me the money so I can get it to you.

[glenspeed]

great! as long as I have the deposit that's fine. probably book the track next week or so.

[STALKER]

I will be home Dec 16th, I hook up with you after that and give you the deposit.

[STALKER]

Glen,
I was thinking that if you had some time to post some pics of the last Fastlaps event, it might get some more members to sign up for the event. Get there juices going.

[glenspeed]

better yet, maybe a video!

[carbonM3]

better yet, maybe a video!

hey glen,

i'm back from mexico and it looks like i didn't miss signing up, so i'm pretty pumped. can you start a list so we can see who is going...the thread is way too long to catch up on!! :nerd:

sean

[glenspeed]

E46 Toronto Track Day
Tentative Date - Saturday April 30th, 2005
Shannonville Motorsport Park
Combination of Nelson/Fabi circuit in morning and Pro Track in afternoon
Cost p.p. (based on 25): $214
Deposit soon: $150

Come on, let's get the number up to 25!!!!

Sign Up
1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +?
7) bluesky
8) christylin'
9) Jersey
10) Cabrio
11) Dieselgrl
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb
14) CarbonM3

[BlueSky]

I still think a weekday tracking will attract more people...
many are backed off by the extra $64 for a weekend IMO...
cuz it's the same thing anyways and that extra cost can be used to buy a full tank of gas lol... :D

[christyles]

I still think a weekday tracking will attract more people...
many are backed off by the extra $64 for a weekend IMO...
cuz it's the same thing anyways and that extra cost can be used to buy a full tank of gas lol... :D
Second that IMO.

[carbonM3]

Second that IMO.di and i can do weekdays...as long as we know in advance

[STALKER]

Poor Glen. Im down for either weekday or weekend.

[carbonM3]

Poor Glen. Im down for either weekday or weekend.

sorry...what i meant is that both are good....but if one is less crowded that makes the diff 4 me....im in either way

[STALKER]

Well we need a minimum of 25 and I think thats pretty much were it will stay. I would say thats a great number.

[STALKER]

Well we need a minimum of 25 and I think thats pretty much were it will stay. I would say thats a great number. Cause there is never a time where everyone is on track, some are watching, others are chilling and the rest our out on track.

[SaRiDi]

I still think a weekday tracking will attract more people...
many are backed off by the extra $64 for a weekend IMO...
cuz it's the same thing anyways and that extra cost can be used to buy a full tank of gas lol... :D

That's true....But I won't able to confirm if I able to attend or not if the event happen on weekday, cuz I won't get my exam schedule until Feb. :Idunno:

[STALKER]

well you know that its on the 30th, unless you have exams on saturdays, you can do a little extra work before hand and still come out to the event. Even though Im a resident, Im studying all the time aswell.

[SaRiDi]

That's why I said weekend is fine ;) But if it happen on weekday(Mon-Fri), I may have the exam on the same day

[dieselgrl]

di and i can do weekdays...as long as we know in advance
ok...weekdays it is ;) hey glenspeed --> I'm going to ask some other friends if they would like to join us so we can try to get the numbers up to 25.

[STALKER]

Ok, we should make a list of what is better for ppl, becauss this is going to get tricky for Glen otherwise.
STALKER-cool either way.

[BlueSky]

STALKER - cool either way
BlueSky - cool either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd

[Cabrio]

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb
14) CarbonM3 - either

Let's fill in your preference to make it easier for Glenspeed. I filled it in for some people based on what I've gathered. I apologize if I have mistaken anyone's preference.

[carbonM3]

can we get a date later than april....pavement will still be cold, etc.....plus april is notorious for rain...if we're gonna do it, let's do it right!

spc

[Cabrio]

I second that. The cost may change though.


can we get a date later than april....pavement will still be cold, etc.....plus april is notorious for rain...if we're gonna do it, let's do it right!

spc

[STALKER]

I will only be in town for 3 weeks April 15 to May 6th or so. I'll understand if you guys want to do it later when Im gone. Im planning on going to the BMWCC track school in April anyways.

[glenspeed]

let's keep the numbers going...we still need minimum 25 to book this. It will be a very uncrowded track with 25 people I assure you. Fastlaps has about 40 partipants and on average there are about 10 cars on the track at any one time...

I have no preference weekend or weekday. Later in May also might be better as it should be warmer. What about end of May then? Sorry Pej! I'll let the members decide. Like I said, I don't care when the track day is, as long as there is one!!!

[Cabrio]

Mid summer will be best for the tires, wouldn't it?

Plus I can track with the top down.woot

Or would the gasoline fume be so bad that it's better to track with the top up? Better yet do it with the hardtop on to make the car more rigid.

[SaRiDi]

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb
14) CarbonM3 - either
15) SaRiDi - weekend

[STALKER]

let's keep the numbers going...we still need minimum 25 to book this. It will be a very uncrowded track with 25 people I assure you. Fastlaps has about 40 partipants and on average there are about 10 cars on the track at any one time...

I have no preference weekend or weekday. Later in May also might be better as it should be warmer. What about end of May then? Sorry Pej! I'll let the members decide. Like I said, I don't care when the track day is, as long as there is one!!!

BBBBOOOOO!!! Its kewl, I'll go the BMWCC event at Mosport instead.

[glenspeed]

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb
14) CarbonM3 - either
15) SaRiDi - weekend

It looks like it is pretty much a toss up between weekday or weekend...let's keep it on the weekend then as it will make it much easier for people to attend I think. Don't forget Pej has 2 coming from Montreal and I have at least 3 coming from Montreal...

[STALKER]

They are local, the Montreal crew have not committed yet.

[glenspeed]

They are local, the Montreal crew have not committed yet.

hope they can commit soon!

[STALKER]

Im trying. One has a serious done up S2000, he was entered in Dark Knights. He is not sure if he wants to track the car. I keep telling him not to be a p*ssy and get it on the track with all the go fast parts he has on it.

[glenspeed]

Im trying. One has a serious done up S2000, he was entered in Dark Knights. He is not sure if he wants to track the car. I keep telling him not to be a p*ssy and get it on the track with all the go fast parts he has on it.

ha ha LOL, usually the Dark Nites crowd don't track their cars. They just like to LOOK like they do!

[STALKER]

Yup, I think he has a Comptech Supercharger on it too, or was planning to do it real soon.

[BlueSky]

oh that one with a comptech supercharger... :0 :eek:

[STALKER]

If you were at Darknights, it was white, well most of its is actually carbon fiber on the panels, it has the CF wide body, blue interior, TVs in the front and the headrests, Satin SSR GT3s, and can't remember the rest. Not sure if the SC was in it then.

[BlueSky]

i saw it.. that's one sick AP1

[STALKER]

ya its a nice ride.

[Wrentech]

Hi Glen, please add me to the list!

Haha i don't even have my car fixed up yet and i'm already excited about e46toronto track day!

I would be good for April 30th. Approx. how many hours in track time would we each get? A full day = 9am-5pm?

Man, i remember how excited I was for BMW driver training level 1, and I walked away from that feeling unfulfilled. too much classroom time.

and regarding payment -> are there any e46 social events or meets coming up this month? I could get the deposit to you then.

[glenspeed]

Great, you are added to the list! Once I get the numbers I need, we can arrange for deposits to be sent to me or next meet whichever comes first.

Full day = 9am to 5pm.

You will not be able to use the whole 8 hours....trust me! It's so intense, most people stop by 3pm.

[glenspeed]

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb
14) CarbonM3 - either
15) SaRiDi - weekend
16) Wrentech - weekend

[glenspeed]

btw, where's Gary in this sign up???? calling Gary.....

[RagingLamb]

My weekdays are booked solid. So I would prefer the weekend as well. Although it would be nice to take a week day off and save the difference in money, but still, I choose weekend.

[glenspeed]

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb - weekend
14) CarbonM3 - either
15) SaRiDi - weekend
16) Wrentech - weekend

[Wrentech]

16) Wrentech - either

If the track day occurs after April 29th, I am prettty flexible, weekends or weekdays. The 29th is my last day of exams.

Hey quick question: would it be a good idea to know how to heel/toe before coming to this thing? I haven't learnt that technique yet :Idunno:

the only experience i have is, well, i am an avid GranTurismo3 addict who has done immense training on laguna seca :blaaaa:

[STALKER]

Wrentech,
So far the date is April 30th. I would worry about just getting the feel of it first and the basics, then worry about the heel and toe. I was a newby last time too, and trust me, getting comfortable on the track, getting the lines, your braking points down are more important. Glen will be able to better explain, as he has lots of experience.

[Jersey]

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey - Weekday only right now.
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb - weekend
14) CarbonM3 - either
15) SaRiDi - weekend
16) Wrentech - weekend

[STALKER]

What abut B1X, I think that was his sign in name?

[glenspeed]

If the track day occurs after April 29th, I am prettty flexible, weekends or weekdays. The 29th is my last day of exams.

Hey quick question: would it be a good idea to know how to heel/toe before coming to this thing? I haven't learnt that technique yet :Idunno:

the only experience i have is, well, i am an avid GranTurismo3 addict who has done immense training on laguna seca :blaaaa:

As Pej said, the first thing to do is familiarize yourself with the track and the using the proper lines, braking and acceleration points. Yes, good techniques like heel and toe are useful to make the transitions smoother and faster, but if you don't know how to do it in your sleep, don't worry about it for the track day. We will only concentrate on driving the car and improving your own driving skills, not teaching you how to race...

I've played GT as well and it's not even close to the real thing! It might be good for learning the track layout, but when you are moving in a car and things are coming up fast, you won't remember Gran Turismo...

[glenspeed]

another thing, for the most part you will have so many other things to concentrate on you won't be thinking about heel & toe...where to start turning, how much to turn, when to start braking, when to stop braking, where to start accelerating, when to stop accelerating all that on top of balancing the car and keeping it smooth through the transitions. Where is the apex, how to cut the apex, how to set up for the next corner, how to set up for the next straight...

[Wrentech]

I've played GT as well and it's not even close to the real thing! It might be good for learning the track layout, but when you are moving in a car and things are coming up fast, you won't remember Gran Turismo...

heh, yeah i can imagine how much real speed + G forces will affect one's handling of the car.

Does the $150 deposit include diapers? i don't want to ruin my seats!! :crying:

[christyles]

Does the $150 deposit include diapers? i don't want to ruin my seats!! :crying:
Unfortunately no... but e46toronto does have an exclusive auto detailer that can clean up your soiled seats from excitement for a nominal charge. I will waive the disinfecting fee. ;) :D

[STALKER]

I have two of my buddies confirmed, but neither drives a BMW. Ones has a Lexus and the other has a Jap car. Hope that is OK. Working on a few more of my friends to get to the magic 25.

[glenspeed]

I have two of my buddies confirmed, but neither drives a BMW. Ones has a Lexus and the other has a Jap car. Hope that is OK. Working on a few more of my friends to get to the magic 25.

of course, it's not totally exclusive BMW event....although more than half the field will be BMW!

[glenspeed]

heh, yeah i can imagine how much real speed + G forces will affect one's handling of the car.

Does the $150 deposit include diapers? i don't want to ruin my seats!! :crying:

people have been known to feel sick after riding in my car... woot

[BlueSky]

i'll bring my "puke bag" along when I ride with you Glen.... :yak:

[glenspeed]

i'll bring my "puke bag" along when I ride with you Glen.... :yak:

yah, absolutely no puking in my car is allowed...if you are feeling sick...get out!!

[BlueSky]

yah, absolutely no puking in my car is allowed...if you are feeling sick...get out!!

is that track rule #1??? :D

[STALKER]

Hopefully he will stop to let you out, you might just have to tuck and roll.

[glenspeed]

is that track rule #1??? :D

that is definately MY rule #1!!! :1nono:

it's funny of all the people that I take for hot laps in my car, so far it's only been women (my wife included) that have said they felt sick...maybe you can break the trend!

[christyles]

yah, absolutely no puking in my car is allowed...if you are feeling sick...get out!!
I clean up puke from BMW interiors for a nominal charge. I will waive the disinfecting fee.

Shamless Premier Auto Detailing plugging. :blaaaa:

[glenspeed]

I clean up puke from BMW interiors for a nominal charge. I will waive the disinfecting fee.

Shamless Premier Auto Detailing plugging. :blaaaa:

in all seriousness, there have been a few passengers that told me they were going to be sick, as long as you tell me BEFORE you puke that's ok with me...I would be very upset if I had to drive around with puke on my dash.... :blaaaa: :blaaaa:

[M333ee]

Kidding aside.

I did feel a little :sick: after bedding in the brakes the first time. All that high speed stop and go is woot but afterwards :sick: :sick: :sick:

[STALKER]

so is the date set for the 30th then???

[glenspeed]

so is the date set for the 30th then???

Not yet, but it looks like that is the day. I need more commitments before I can book though... I will be taking deposits soon so at least I can get a good count.

What I will promise is I will not cash the deposits until I book the day, that way if we don't get enough numbers I can refund the deposits.

Is everyone ok to send me their deposits next week?

[STALKER]

I can get it to you when Im back home, along with my buddies who want to come.

[glenspeed]

cool...

[Wrentech]

What I will promise is I will not cash the deposits until I book the day, that way if we don't get enough numbers I can refund the deposits.

That's a great idea. What are the numbers at now Glen?
E46 members + guests = x ?

[glenspeed]

Gary's now in!

1) glenspeed + 5
6) stalker +? - either
7) bluesky - either way, but WeekDay >> WeekEnd
8) christylin' - weekday
9) Jersey - Weekday only right now.
10) Cabrio - either
11) Dieselgrl - either
12) Rost12
13) RagingLamb - weekend
14) CarbonM3 - either
15) SaRiDi - weekend
16) Wrentech - weekend
17) M007

[STALKER]

Anthony and Eric, where are you guys on that list??????????????????

[audiophilia]

Anthony and Eric, where are you guys on that list??????????????????
I'm not sure of my sched yet...really would like to attend. That's a really busy time for me...:o

[glenspeed]

I'm not sure of my sched yet...really would like to attend. That's a really busy time for me...:o

that's why you know 5 months in advance... woot

[audiophilia]

that's why you know 5 months in advance... woot
My sched's a year in advance...:p I know opera singers scheduled 5 years in advance...:D

I'll try and make it. Want to bad!!!! well, watch anyway...:o

[glenspeed]

you will be kicking yourself once you get there and only can watch...

[STALKER]

Anthony, Im expecting to see you there buddy. You to Eric.

[glenspeed]

yah, I thought Irene and Eric were signing up... :Idunno:

[audiophilia]

Anthony, Im expecting to see you there buddy. You to Eric.
Pej has spoken! :D

I'll do my best, buddy! Want to be there...means I'll have to read thru 300 posts...:eek:

[M333ee]

We were discussing it over the weekend.

NO track for the M3! :1nono:

CR-V woot

[STALKER]

Like I said, Im expecting to see both of you guys there, the circle will not be complete with out yall.

[glenspeed]

We were discussing it over the weekend.

NO track for the M3! :1nono:

CR-V woot

that's too bad. that's where you realize how good the car is and what it was engineered for...3 series all included...

[Canuck328i]

Holy sheet - serves me right having to read through 23 pages!

Is this still on the weekend? If it was weekday I may be able to go (we run every Saturday at Sunset). Glen, are helmets needed?

Hey, if you guys want to try an oval I can line that up. Just might need some touch up paint for the right side panels...

Mark

[glenspeed]

Holy sheet - serves me right having to read through 23 pages!

Is this still on the weekend? If it was weekday I may be able to go (we run every Saturday at Sunset). Glen, are helmets needed?

Hey, if you guys want to try an oval I can line that up. Just might need some touch up paint for the right side panels...

Mark

Still on the weekend...you can still make it back by Sunset...

helmets not required, but brains are...

so are you in?

[Canuck328i]

If it is on April 30th, I'm 90% sure that is our pre season practice day so it wouldn't be possible (I have to be there all day). Plus on a regular Saturday, I need to be at the track in Stroud by 4 at the latest.

Sorry Glen - weekday would work better for me.

Mark

[glenspeed]

If it is on April 30th, I'm 90% sure that is our pre season practice day so it wouldn't be possible (I have to be there all day). Plus on a regular Saturday, I need to be at the track in Stroud by 4 at the latest.

Sorry Glen - weekday would work better for me.

Mark

that is too bad. I am looking for another 5 - 8 people to complete the registration, so if you know any others that would like to go, please direct them to this sign up.

[Canuck328i]

Yeah, this sounds like fun. I'll keep an eye out just in case the date changes.

The track probably will be a little slick in April - our guys are usually changing pressures in the early part of the season to keep up.

As for getting sick, riding shotgun in a Late Model is pretty close to nausea until your body gets used to it! (Ask me how I know.) Slicks stick real good!

Mark

[glenspeed]

Yeah, this sounds like fun. I'll keep an eye out just in case the date changes.

The track probably will be a little slick in April - our guys are usually changing pressures in the early part of the season to keep up.

As for getting sick, riding shotgun in a Late Model is pretty close to nausea until your body gets used to it! (Ask me how I know.) Slicks stick real good!

Mark

well if it doesn't rain, I'll be happy. It won't be worse when one year, late October I thought it was going to snow...

[STALKER]

Ya rain would suck, but it would be very educational at the same time. Can't wait till April 30th.

[glenspeed]

hope it is sunny and warm... woot

[glenspeed]

Ya rain would suck, but it would be very educational at the same time. Can't wait till April 30th.

I've been getting a few comments about April weather conditions and was wondering (bad for you Pej, and I would be disappointed) if it would be better to move the day to last Saturday in May (28th)? Since most of the E46 crew are not track veterans, a nice warm sunny day (at least more chances of it) might be more appreciated????

Should I put it to a vote?

[BlueSky]

either month is fine... we are just learning there... can learn more in rain too... :D

i would still prefer a weekday over a weekend tho...

[glenspeed]

I have potentially filled the slots pending confirmations.

Can everyone who is signed up please send me a cheque for the deposit of $150 asap? you can make them out to Glen Chow and send them to my work at:

Glen Chow
Minacs
180 Duncan Mill Rd.
Toronto, ON
M3B 1Z6

as promised, I won't cash them until I have the date booked, so if I don't get all the commitments/deposits in to book, all cheques will be returned.

if I get the 25 people it will be $214 total. so once I booked the track I will ask for the remaining balance.

Thanks all!

[BlueSky]

wow cool i didn't know u work there...
i will be working at 240 Duncan Mill next week... i can just meet up with u (during work... :devil: )
lol~

[glenspeed]

wow cool i didn't know u work there...
i will be working at 240 Duncan Mill next week... i can just meet up with u (during work... :devil: )
lol~

I'm only working the Monday and I have pretty tight back to back meetings until about 3, so maybe meet then?

LMK.

[thebookie]

I've been getting a few comments about April weather conditions and was wondering (bad for you Pej, and I would be disappointed) if it would be better to move the day to last Saturday in May (28th)? Since most of the E46 crew are not track veterans, a nice warm sunny day (at least more chances of it) might be more appreciated????

Should I put it to a vote?
If you do it May 28th I'm in, April is not a good month for the track due to the possibility of slick conditions, and with car insurance being null and void on a track it is better to be safe than sorry.

[glenspeed]

If you do it May 28th I'm in, April is not a good month for the track due to the possibility of slick conditions, and with car insurance being null and void on a track it is better to be safe than sorry.

well to be clear, it wouldn't necessarily be "safer" if it was dry because you can then drive faster...

I'm all for nice sunny weather though. It's more fun to hang as well.

[zero4]

Although I haven't met any of you yet, can you sign me up for 2 people (myself and a friend)?

I am sure I will meet a lot of you before the track day.

When is the track day again? There are so many pages I didn't go through all of them.

Thanks.

[glenspeed]

Although I haven't met any of you yet, can you sign me up for 2 people (myself and a friend)?

I am sure I will meet a lot of you before the track day.

When is the track day again? There are so many pages I didn't go through all of them.

Thanks.

It's tentatively April 28th right now, but alot of people would prefer end of May for better weather.

Sign up on other thread please. I will also need deposits for each person of $150 now for total of $214 when I book the day.

[christyles]

It's tentatively April 28th right now, but alot of people would prefer end of May for better weather.

Sign up on other thread please. I will also need deposits for each person of $150 now for total of $214 when I book the day.
What date to put on cheque Glen?

[STALKER]

Let me know if its May guys, cause that way I wont give Glen a deposit and hunt down my friends for money. Thanks.

[glenspeed]

What date to put on cheque Glen?

just date the cheque for Jan 1.

[christyles]

Glen, I got my cheque. When ever you wanna meet up. Maybe for dimsum or something. I'm hungry.

[glenspeed]

going to have to wait until after new years for dim sum..I'm leaving for Montreal tomorrow morning...

can you send the check to my home?

[christyles]

going to have to wait until after new years for dim sum..I'm leaving for Montreal tomorrow morning...

can you send the check to my home?
Word.

[glenspeed]

Word.

huh?

[christyles]

huh?
Ghetto slang for "yes, I'll mail it out to you.".

[glenspeed]

oh right. ok mang!

[Rice]

Hey can I come watch? I'm too wussy to be driving fast on the track :p

[oyster]

Hey can I come watch? I'm too wussy to be driving fast on the track :p
if you going to go to watch, I'll keep you company.....still debating to drive or not on the track

[glenspeed]

Hey can I come watch? I'm too wussy to be driving fast on the track :p

you won't be driving that fast on the track...I won't let you!

beginners will be with instructors and controlled at a different pace. the idea is for you guys to learn and improve driving skills, not go crazy at the track...
there is a set program for beginners starting out of the car for 1st lesson.