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oyster
09-27-2004, 09:26 AM
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Jersey
09-27-2004, 09:39 AM
thats the one
audiophilia
09-27-2004, 12:06 PM
GB...I'll check with CHris
bmwboy88
09-27-2004, 03:42 PM
This oil extractor is amazing. I got it not too long ago and been using it every time I change my oil. It makes oil change so easy and clean.
It's worth the $$$
Sunapollo
09-27-2004, 03:49 PM
Which is better the conventional method or the extractor ? I know the extractor is easier for diy ... but is it able to suck up all the dirty oil inside the oil pan (especially those accumulated at the bottom) ? How much does it cost ? I'm in for the groupbuy !
christyles
09-27-2004, 11:20 PM
I read the reviews, pretty good Review (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductReviewView?catalogId=10001&catentryId=10677&storeNum=&subdeptNum=&classNum=)
Anthony & I have started to look into GB for oil extractor. The site is down. Will check back later.
M333ee
09-28-2004, 07:43 AM
[QUOTE=oyster]
Cons (possible)
Someone answer these
1-Will it suck out all oil?
2-When finished, can you reverse the pump to pump it into empty containers so you can bring it to crappy tire for recycling or
do you need to manually pour it in?
[QUOTE]
It will suck out at least 6L+ with the motor being almost 7L.
I don't know if there is one with the reverse pump feature....???
You have to manually pour it out :sick:
Regin8r
09-28-2004, 07:48 AM
Do they have an electric one?
Also, for other cars (like my parents minivan) I need the ramp anyways because the oil filter is like at the back of the engine.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&classNum=170&subdeptNum=169&storeNum=6&productId=10677
Umm, that $49US one has only 5L capacity. I think we need 7L mininum. When you google for oil changers, you get quite a few marinas that are selling them.
Reg
Jersey
09-28-2004, 10:00 AM
it actually sucks out MORE oil than the conventional method. and most of the pumps actually come with a cap that you can put on and just transport the oil in the actual pump....i didnt see one for yours eric...maybe its in the box
M333ee
09-28-2004, 10:06 AM
I think there is one... :Idunno:
Would have been much easier to do eh. :confused2
Regin8r
09-28-2004, 12:15 PM
I personally do not want to empty the container after 5.5 L (the capacity) in the middle of the oil change. I have rather pay a little extra and have a bigger capacity to do everything in one shot.
http://www.diy-boat.com/Pages/Archives/links/demooil.html
Try contacting the distributor to see if they have bigger than 5L capacity.
There are a few different, yet similar larger models to consider.
PL-650 Big PELA Oil Extractor 6.5 L capacity
http://shop.diy-boat.com/dir/Retail_Products/Engine_Service/
Astro 6.5 L capacity
http://www.mytoolstore.com/astro/asthan11.html
Griot's Garage 6.5 L capacity
http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=10122
MityVac 7201 8.8 L capcity
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/MIT-7201.html
I vote 8.8L capacity woot !
Sunapollo
09-28-2004, 12:49 PM
since we need 7L, I vote for the 8.8L one as well :D Too bad ... free shipping only offers for US address ...
christyles
09-28-2004, 12:53 PM
We'll look into the GB then for the extractor.
Chopper
09-28-2004, 01:00 PM
since we need 7L, I vote for the 8.8L one as well :D Too bad ... free shipping only offers for US address ...
Let's do a BUffalo run!!
:D
wjjeeper
09-28-2004, 01:22 PM
Couple of questions for you guys
#1 Will this extractor get the last bit of oil out of the oilpan? The concern is that typically thats where any metal would be.
#2 Can someone direct me to a DIY write-up showing the use of an extractor on a E46? I think I know how it works, but I would like to do some reading.
#3 If you guys arrange a GB, can I get in on it with you?
Quickid
09-28-2004, 01:39 PM
Couple of questions for you guys
#1 Will this extractor get the last bit of oil out of the oilpan? The concern is that typically thats where any metal would be.
#2 Can someone direct me to a DIY write-up showing the use of an extractor on a E46? I think I know how it works, but I would like to do some reading.
#3 If you guys arrange a GB, can I get in on it with you?
Point #1 concerns me as well. Philip (mechanic at Cross Avenue Auto) and I were discussing this the other day and he said it's probably a good idea to use magnetic oil pan drain plugs if changing oil using an extractor. You can then remove the drain plug and clean off any metal attached to it.
But then it sort of defeats the purpose somewhat. Anyway, I'm still undecided as to what's the best way to go.
Jersey
09-28-2004, 01:44 PM
MityVac 7201 8.8 L capcity gets my vote too
hey Jos...from what i saw when i did my oil change with eric's pump it actually did remove some solid debris from the bottom of the oil pan...now i guess there is no way to determine if this was just suspended in the oil, but i didnt notice anything until RIGHT at the end .....so my guess would be it came from the bottom....
Quickid
09-28-2004, 01:47 PM
hey Jos...from what i saw when i did my oil change with eric's pump it actually did remove some solid debris from the bottom of the oil pan...now i guess there is no way to determine if this was just suspended in the oil, but i didnt notice anything until RIGHT at the end .....so my guess would be it came from the bottom....
I suppose if you drive it around a bit then extract the oil before the metal particles settle down the oil pan then you'll get most of it. Makes sense. :)
wjjeeper
09-28-2004, 02:16 PM
Oyster thanks for the links!
I'm going to do some thinking on this extractor.
I'm of the belief that I like to get as much of the old crud out of the oilpan when changing oil. Thats why I usually change my own and usually let the oil drain for half an hour. I probably go overboard, but it can't hurt right :Idunno:
Jersey
09-28-2004, 02:21 PM
only $4 off??? thats kinda weak..i say we shop around a little more
Sunapollo
09-28-2004, 02:24 PM
I'll put up my name on the list for now ... thank you for organizing !!
1-Oyster
2-Sunapollo
Jim_in_Calgary
09-28-2004, 02:37 PM
Here's a link to the Pela Oil extractor. It's the same one as griot's garage advertizes. It's $94.95. Canadian company on the East coast, so no duty or brokerage.
http://ca.binnacle.com/online/product.asp?pf%5Fid=36007&dept%5Fid=11250
You may want to ask what they'd do price wise.
I'm in for a group buy...any problem that I'm in Calgary?
Thanks
M333ee
09-28-2004, 02:40 PM
Welcome Jim_in_Calgary.
Another new member from the GTA. :thumbsup:
oyster
09-28-2004, 02:43 PM
Here's a link to the Pela Oil extractor. It's the same one as griot's garage advertizes. It's $94.95. Canadian company on the East coast, so no duty or brokerage.
http://ca.binnacle.com/online/product.asp?pf%5Fid=36007&dept%5Fid=11250
You may want to ask what they'd do price wise.
I'm in for a group buy...any problem that I'm in Calgary?
Thanks
is it Jim from e46fanatics.com?
Welcome, I guess we could ship it to you via canada xpresspost or something like that.
oyster
09-28-2004, 02:46 PM
only $4 off??? thats kinda weak..i say we shop around a little more
let's find the best deal
$85 for local buy is not bad considering the cheapest on-line price is US $59.99+shipping or drive to buffalo and dealing with customs.
Jim_in_Calgary
09-28-2004, 02:57 PM
Yes, I'm also on e46fanatics. com
Glad to have some Canadian content. The one hassle about our BMW hobby is duty/brokerage fees. Always looking for a way around it!
I saw some traffic about Tunerworks in Calgary. I've been there and I know their reputation....very good. The owner drives an e36 328is coupe with an e36 M3 engine in it. He's apparently one of the best track drivers in western canada. Good to deal with someone that lives and breathes BMW.
Sorry for being off topic, but this weekend I met a guy at a dyno day who has installed a LS1 (current corvette) 5.7L engine into an e36 sedan. It looks absolutely factory. All factory bmw gauges etc have been retained. The transmission shifter even looks stock. It dyno'd at well over 400 horsepower. Sweet.
Also, if anybody wants a really sweet oil extractor, princess auto also sells one for $169 (current sale item). It holds 6 gallons and runs off compressed air for generating the vacuum. It's probably more geared towards industrial users.
Regin8r
09-28-2004, 02:58 PM
My uncle lives 20 minutes from the border. So for me, the group buy price would be $97.75
If I get 2, I can get free shipping to my uncle's house, and it would cost me less than $80 CDN
The problem is getting them across the border. 1 or 2 might not be a problem, but 10 might be.
On the other hand, you don't have to pay brokerage if you are crossing the border, only duty and taxes. So you could still come out ahead if we work out a deal with the US supplier.
Reg
Regin8r
09-28-2004, 03:22 PM
There is another smaller model 7.3L, which is a little cheaper.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/MIT-7400.html
The 7201 has Mityvac accessories for other fluids! woot
One person brake bleeding:
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/mit7205.html
oyster
09-28-2004, 03:48 PM
4 models to choose from:
07201 Fluid Evacuator Plus
07240 Fluid Transfer Pump
07300 PneumatiVac - Air Operated Fluid Evacuator
07400 Larger Capacity Fluid Evacuator
Mity vac (http://www.mityvac.com/kits.html#plus)
7201
The Fluid Evacuator Plus, a large 8.8 Liter (2.3 gallon) capacity bi-functional manual unit, can be used to extract and dispense a wide-range of fluid types including:
• Engine oil from crankcases
• Brake fluid from master cylinders and most hydraulic brake systems
• Gear oil from transmission cases
• Coolant from cooling systems
• Power steering fluid from pump reservoirs
• And so much more…
The Fluid Evacuator Plus provides a clean, and simple way to evacuate & dispense fluids. An automatic flow control valve prevents the unit from overfilling during use and automatically shuts off at 8 liters. The reservoir is constructed of durable polyethylene and will not rust or corrode. This kit comes with 5 ft. of flexible hose and two rigid dipstick tubes for engine oil removal. This unit can also be used in conjunction with Mityvac P/N 07205 Fluid Evacuator Brake Bleeding Accessory Kit to bleed hydraulic brake systems.
7240 > Walmart has a look a like for $15
The Fluid Transfer Pump is a quick and easy method to transfer or siphon all types of fluids including gas, oil, transmission fluid and water. Plus, the pump may also be used to inflate a wide-range of items including beach balls, children’s toys, bicycle tires, sports balls, inflatable mattresses, flotation devices and much more (inflation needle not included). The Fluid Transfer Pump is made of durable polyethylene and will not rust or corrode.
7300
The PneumatiVac, a large 8.8 Liter (2.3 gallon) capacity air operated fluid evacuator, can be used to extract a wide-range of fluid types including:
• Engine oil from crankcases
• Brake fluid from master cylinders and most hydraulic brake systems
• Gear oil from transmission cases
• Coolant from cooling systems
• Power steering fluid from pump reservoirs
• And so much more…
This shop air operated evacuator provides a clean, fast and simple way to evacuate fluids. The base mounted Venturi adds stability during operation and the air and fluid-line shut off valves prevent the unit from overfilling during use. The reservoir is constructed of durable polyethylene and will not rust or corrode. This kit comes with 5 ft. of flexible hose, two rigid dipstick tubes and a universal brake-bleeding adapter.
The PneumatiVac can also be used away from the air source by first creating a vacuum, closing off both shut off valves, then transporting the unit to the job. Connect the tubing; release the shut off valves, and the PneumatiVac will do the job!
7400
The recently introduced Mityvac 07400 Fluid Evacuator is ideal for use in the shop or at home. The 07400 removes all types of fluid in a range of applications from cars, trucks, boats, RVs, ATVs and small engines. The easy-to-use 07400 Fluid Evacuator provides a larger, more durable reservoir than its predecessor the 07200, increasing the fluid capacity to 1.9 gallons (7.3 liters). Its larger base and redesigned foot stabilizer increase steadiness, reducing the chance for spills.
The 07400's durable pump handle has been strengthened to resist fracture and increase product life. Its unit handle has been redesigned with a longer, more comfortable grip, and the pressure relief valve has been relocated for operator convenience.The unit's polyethylene construction is easy to clean and resists automotive and household chemicals. Requiring no electricity or compressed air to operate its manual pump, the 07400 is light and portable, and its built-in automatic shutoff prevents accidental overfill.
oyster
09-28-2004, 03:58 PM
There is another smaller model 7.3L, which is a little cheaper.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/MIT-7400.html
The 7201 has Mityvac accessories for other fluids! woot
One person brake bleeding:
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/mit7205.html
if you get the 7300, it includes a universal brake-bleeding adapter but requires compress air to operate.
My take is to get the 7201 d Evacuator Plus, a large 8.8 Liter (2.3 gallon) capacity bi-functional manual unit http://www.mityvac.com/images/07201.jpg and the 7205 Fluid Evacuator Brake Bleeding Accessory http://www.mityvac.com/images/7205.jpg
Quickid
09-28-2004, 04:31 PM
Oyster, Thanks for the hard work you put in researching this. Wow :yourmyido
Sunapollo
09-28-2004, 04:44 PM
Oyster has become an oil extractor consultant after all these researches. :nerd:
Jim_in_Calgary
09-28-2004, 05:15 PM
I'm in for whatever you guys decide. If given the choice, I'd go for the fully optioned unit. I like the idea of vacuum brake bleeding as well as the option to have it pump itself empty using pressure.
As of Monday I'm in Maui for 3 weeks, and I'd hate to miss this opportunity. If you guys are planning on pulling the trigger on this during that time...please let me know....I'll send a certified cheque or bank draft out to you this week.
Thanks for all the research.
christyles
09-28-2004, 05:48 PM
Ok, obviously Oyster is the man for the GB on oil extractor, Oyster, you wanna take charge of this GB, as you know exactly what to look for.
The onus is on you or anybody else who wishes to to this gb.
Santiago
09-28-2004, 10:16 PM
Hi everyone,
I just signed up here following Oyster's mention of a group buy over at E46Fanatics (http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=198396).
I am very interested in participating in this group buy. Is it an issue if the extractor was shipped to me in Montreal? I am pretty interested in the Binnacle (http://ca.binnacle.com/online/product.asp?pf%5Fid=36007&dept%5Fid=11250) one if this GB doesn't work out.
Thanks
Regin8r
09-29-2004, 07:35 AM
Oyster da man! DO IT OYSTER! DO IT!
Reg
Santiago
09-29-2004, 10:14 PM
I'm in Montreal like 2-3 times a months, so special delivery for you
Excellent! :thumbsup:
What part of the city are you going to be in?
Santiago
09-30-2004, 05:05 PM
Longueuil
but I come to Guy/Rene-levesque to meet friends there.
Sounds good, I'm hardly ever on the South Shore so meeting downtown will be fine.
I'll keep an eye on the GB threads.
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