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M333ee
10-05-2004, 10:42 AM
Just got off the phone with Paul at Carbonio intakes.
Local business that will get big soon with the aftermarket intake business.
Anybody here have their intake? I only remember seeing the one on the PY M3 at woodbridge.
Chris, Anthony another potential board sponsor and great guy to talk to.
He will also be showing at Bimmercruise.
http://carboniointakes.com/index.php
christyles
10-05-2004, 10:44 AM
Just got off the phone with Paul at Carbonio intakes.
Local business that will get big soon with the aftermarket intake business.
Anybody here have their intake? I only remember seeing the one on the PY M3 at woodbridge.
Chris, Anthony another potential board sponsor and great guy to talk to.
He will also be showing at Bimmercruise.
http://carboniointakes.com/index.php
E, check Pm...
There's a bunch of us still requiring CAI's.
M333ee
10-05-2004, 11:24 AM
Located in Mississauga!!!!
Need I say more.
Paul should give me a big discount for plugging his company!!!! :}:
db323
10-05-2004, 11:31 AM
carbonio intakes....if they have one for my car I AM IN.......
christyles
10-05-2004, 11:36 AM
Group buy prices....
Cash deals....
Pick up local....
Located in Mississauga!!!!
Need I say more.
Paul should give me a big discount for plugging his company!!!! :}:
Done deal. We're on it.
M333ee
10-05-2004, 11:43 AM
They have it for all E46's including the M's :yourmyido
condition
10-05-2004, 12:08 PM
They have it for all E46's including the M's :yourmyido
how much for the m3?
7jkt1
10-05-2004, 12:10 PM
What does it look like when installed?
Quickid
10-05-2004, 12:13 PM
What does it look like when installed?
Similar style to Dinan and Benfer.. long CF pipe going down to about the bumper by the foglight and brake duct.
7jkt1
10-05-2004, 12:21 PM
Would that be a problem if it comes down into the bumper? My question is wrt to moisture getting in. I always that CAI, like the Gruppe M, is safer.
Quickid
10-05-2004, 12:36 PM
Would that be a problem if it comes down into the bumper? My question is wrt to moisture getting in. I always that CAI, like the Gruppe M, is safer.
There is a waterproof sock that protect the filter from getting wet (DINAN sells them for sure) but unless you're going on a puddle 6-12" inches deep, it's probably not a big issue.
For myself, I chose the shielded, short pipe design used by Conforti, ECIS, and Racing Dynamics because of a maintenance concern. I like to have easy access to the filter so I can have a close look everytime I open the hood and clean it if necessary.
Chopper
10-05-2004, 12:46 PM
There is a waterproof sock that protect the filter from getting wet (DINAN sells them for sure) but unless you're going on a puddle 6-12" inches deep, it's probably not a big issue.
For myself, I chose the shielded, short pipe design used by Conforti, ECIS, and Racing Dynamics because of a maintenance concern. I like to have easy access to the filter so I can have a close look everytime I open the hood and clean it if necessary.
How often are you cleaning your filter?
M333ee
10-05-2004, 01:05 PM
To clarify the issue.
Sorry for the miss quoted post but Carbonio does not do group buys and suggests to buy their intakes either online or through their dealer network. :1nono:
laziemofo
10-05-2004, 01:05 PM
i dun think there will be any problem with water getting into the intake... i have a dinan and i havent had problems with it yet. Ive driven through pritty big storms and in the winter with it
Quickid
10-05-2004, 01:23 PM
How often are you cleaning your filter?
On average, I end up cleaning the filter every 5K kms. I'm pretty sure I'm overdoing it but it makes me feel comfortable. I check the filter every week to make sure it's good especially with all the construction happening in my area.
On average, I end up cleaning the filter every 5K kms. I'm pretty sure I'm overdoing it but it makes me feel comfortable. I check the filter every week to make sure it's good especially with all the construction happening in my area.
5K is probably overkill... I'd say at least every 10-12K..I do my K&N twice a summer... never hurts to keep your air filter clean..
BlueSky
10-05-2004, 02:11 PM
i clean my GruppeM every 6K... :^o:
mesom3
10-05-2004, 04:48 PM
Do ask Paul if he's got the additional ring for the filter? I had to use the OEM ring to let all the parts go together. It's been a while, Carbonio should provide that ring by now. I think M3s have this issue.
I clean my filter every 10K as they recommended on the instruction.
The cabornio like GruppeM doesn't have a perfect fitment. During installation for M3s, need to makes ure that the lower portion lines up with the air tunnel beside fog light before you tight everything up. Besides that, it will just take about half an hour for installation. Removing your stock might take about 1 hour.
M333ee
10-05-2004, 05:54 PM
That long for installation in a M3....
It took me about 10min for a ECIS into a 330ci :Idunno:
Golden
10-08-2004, 04:17 PM
Bliss from Max ( he has the Hamann 325ci) has a carbonio intake, but i think i read him say it would not be good for the winter because of the water.
i wish they had good gruppe M replicas.. how hard could it be!?
carbonM3
10-08-2004, 05:41 PM
They have it for all E46's including the M's :yourmyido
i just checked the site...they don't have for Ms...
M333ee
10-09-2004, 08:21 AM
i just checked the site...they don't have for Ms...
It's not on the website yet but I did get pics from them. Looks even better than the Gruppe M for M3's :eek:
Call and ask him for a price Sean!!!!
STALKER
10-09-2004, 02:50 PM
Eric, I had the Gruppe M, it looks good man, but save you $$, you want get any real gains from it.
M333ee
10-10-2004, 10:09 AM
Yeh, I just heard that is sound's good but it costs sooooo much.
I love the sound of Ron's Dinan intake so I might just go that route for even less $$$$$$
Quickid
10-13-2004, 09:57 AM
Yeh, I just heard that is sound's good but it costs sooooo much.
I love the sound of Ron's Dinan intake so I might just go that route for even less $$$$$$
Isn't Benfer cheaper than Dinan and it's identical in design? Don't they (BFE) have one for M3s?
M333ee
10-13-2004, 10:03 AM
Soooo many intakes out there now.
I'm not sure if Benfer gets their M3 intakes from Carbono :Idunno: but I've heard a few online stores do.
I'm liking the M3motorworks AFE intake right now. $700usd shipped though :crying: :crying:
Chopper
10-13-2004, 10:59 AM
Soooo many intakes out there now.
I'm not sure if Benfer gets their M3 intakes from Carbono :Idunno: but I've heard a few online stores do.
I'm liking the M3motorworks AFE intake right now. $700usd shipped though :crying: :crying:
That's the sad part of getting an M3...all of the parts/mods have also jumped in prices. I guess that's what the market will bear. :(
M333ee
10-13-2004, 12:00 PM
Yup,
I can't imaging buying a intake that give you maybe 7hp for $1300US :crying: Even the AFE intake which has a dyno increase of at least 12-15hp goes for $700 which is about $1000 Canadian :eek: .
I remember the Honda days when a full cold air AEM intake with piping cost less than $400cdn. Dammmm headers were only $450 .....
The only reason I like intakes is because of the washable filter. The bonus is a LITTLE extra HP and the sound.
Quickid
10-13-2004, 12:07 PM
The only reason I like intakes is because of the washable filter. The bonus is a LITTLE extra HP and the sound.
How about just a drop-in K&N or ITG filter then? Debaffle the airbox and you get the washable filter and the added sound :Idunno: A little extra hp (7 or so) ain't gonna make any difference on the M3.
Jersey
10-13-2004, 12:09 PM
dude $700 usd used to be around $1000 can...these days its actually LESS than $900....
its around $880....so now is the time to buy from the usa!
SmoothMoka
10-13-2004, 12:25 PM
Just installed ECIS last night! woot Took me a little bit more than 30 minutes...took my time to get to know baby! I still have to disconnect and reconnect my battery to let the computer learn the new intake...so exciting!
Thanks again E!
Chopper
10-13-2004, 12:34 PM
dude $700 usd used to be around $1000 can...these days its actually LESS than $900....
its around $880....so now is the time to buy from the usa!
This is the guy that's making us all broke. :yak:
Quickid
10-13-2004, 12:59 PM
I still have to disconnect and reconnect my battery to let the computer learn the new intake...
I thought the MAF sensor will sense more air and then the software will adjust to it. I really don't think disconnecting the battery is necessary.
M333ee
10-13-2004, 02:22 PM
I thought the MAF sensor will sense more air and then the software will adjust to it. I really don't think disconnecting the battery is necessary.
I used to think that too but I just tried it out for fun since it was a free mod. The computer does lean you driving patterns and adjusts to how agressive you drive. I was lead to believe that after any mod that increases your airflow you should disconnect for a min of 15min then drive the car around hard for a couple of days.
I've read some people even claiming to leave it disconnected for at least 6h or overnight.....overkill or what (I just read it today)
This could be a myth populated by all the BMW forums but it's free and it may or may not work on the butt dyno.
Chopper
10-13-2004, 02:55 PM
Yeah...I was told that the computer learns the new intake as well and the disconnect was not necessary. Does someone else know otherwise?
audiophilia
10-13-2004, 03:58 PM
no disconnect here. assdyno feels the Gruppe M POWERwoot
BlueSky
10-13-2004, 06:40 PM
from what I've read... there are 2 different opinions...
if you disconnect the battery, then you don't need the 200miles+ run-in to flash the adaptation ROM...
I've also read that... disconnecting the battery does not reset throtto adaptation....
can someone confirm???
STALKER
10-15-2004, 04:38 PM
Those interested in M3 intakes should check out, the new AFE, its cheaper and is suppose to work well. Might be getting one, Eric check it out.
M333ee
10-15-2004, 04:49 PM
Those interested in M3 intakes should check out, the new AFE, its cheaper and is suppose to work well. Might be getting one, Eric check it out.
Pej,
You are reading my mind... and all the threads on the M3 forum. Can we say group buy??? Sean (carbonM3) might want one too :D
STALKER
10-15-2004, 04:52 PM
Is that your M in your sig? We should try to set something up then.
M333ee
10-15-2004, 04:55 PM
It's actually not Pej,
I took that pic from a guy on M3Forum and I'm using it as a temp. pic :D
Looks the same just stock 18's....
I'll talk to Sean on Sunday about the AFE. I'm sold on it too ;)
STALKER
10-15-2004, 04:59 PM
Im still gonna have to do a little reseach on it before I take teh plunge. I just spent a load on the, have the rears Brembos coming, just bought a Titanium CF trim, including steering wheel and hand brake.
M333ee
10-15-2004, 05:06 PM
You my friend are my mod master :yourmyido
Do you still have the Gruppe M or did you sell it already?
I'm thinking of the CSL front spliters :Idunno:
STALKER
10-15-2004, 05:08 PM
I sold it already, I have those CLS splitter, I might sell them though. So thing that are going to be sold, might be the splitters, and the Dinan suspension will be going on sale for sure.
If u guys start a group buy on the afe i be intersted,but i think the k&n is coming out soon.
STALKER
10-15-2004, 05:37 PM
Here are some pics that I have shown on this Ebay gallery.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...TRK%3AMESE%3AIT
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M333ee
10-16-2004, 12:11 AM
Link doesn't work stalker....
Slow, I've been reading about the hints of the new K&N filter kit for the E46 M3's. Supposed to come out after SEMA.
Been seeing a few Gruppe M's for sale and some stalling problems with the AFE's....
STALKER
10-16-2004, 12:20 AM
Ya the stalling thing concerns me. The Delage kit is the ultimate intake, it is like the CSL one. Its $$$ though.
STALKER
10-16-2004, 11:38 AM
Eric, the best price I found was $645 including shipping and a cleaning kit for the AFE kit. Im not totally sold on it yet though, its heavy too. Some say its great, but I need more infor on it before I take the plunge. Note, price will increase to $725 soon though.
glenspeed
10-16-2004, 12:06 PM
Eric, the best price I found was $645 including shipping and a cleaning kit for the AFE kit. Im not totally sold on it yet though, its heavy too. Some say its great, but I need more infor on it before I take the plunge. Note, price will increase to $725 soon though.
I agree the AFE looks good, but I (along with others) have been very vocal on the other forum balking at the "design" aspect not matching the relatively high price. I just can't believe something that is the same design as all the current CAI's out there (Conforti, K&N, ECIS, etc) costs double just because it's larger in diameter tubing??? Oh I forgot, M3 owners are all billionaires! :eek:
Apparently K&N is coming out with a less expensive one very soon. I am not crazy about the gauze filters anyway and prefer the reticulated foam, but maybe there will be a retrofit for the ITG filters...
STALKER
10-16-2004, 03:28 PM
The only one that is not the gauze is the Dinan CIA.
glenspeed
10-16-2004, 06:53 PM
The only one that is not the gauze is the Dinan CIA.
Conforti uses ITG filters, but still doesn't make an M3 version... :mad:
M333ee
10-18-2004, 09:31 AM
Can somebody out there make a foam intake for the M3 that doesn't cost 600+. I wonder if there are any stalling problems with the Dinan intake....? Does anything flow as good with the same HP increase as the AFE????
STALKER
10-18-2004, 09:38 AM
Eric,
I have been looking into it, the AFE is very heavy. I hate to say it, but I think the Dinan set up might actually be the best eingennered one out there, especially since it comes with software. I think Im gonna leave mine stock for now, the stock one is very good design actually.
M333ee
10-18-2004, 10:27 AM
Eric,
I have been looking into it, the AFE is very heavy. I hate to say it, but I think the Dinan set up might actually be the best eingennered one out there, especially since it comes with software. I think Im gonna leave mine stock for now, the stock one is very good design actually.
Pej,
That's what I've been thinking too. The Dinan intake may not have the looks but it my be the best engineered and performance oriented. STOCK is good :thumbsup:
STALKER
10-18-2004, 01:01 PM
Im gonna keep the OEM intake for awhile and spend my $$$ on other things.
M333ee
10-18-2004, 02:54 PM
Im gonna keep the OEM intake for awhile and spend my $$$ on other things.
What more do you need on your beautiful M3 :eek:
Speaking of intakes. At Bimmercruise, they had a booth selling Carbonio intakes for the E46 M3. $850 cash..... I didn't go for it :crying:
STALKER
10-18-2004, 03:47 PM
Thats a good deal, but it wont do anythign for your car. They stopped selling the Gruppe M in North America, and the Carbino is based on that, so no worries. Oh, there i lots do to. Im changing out the suspension, already paid for and just waiting tilll I get back, my Brembos are sitting in my basement, I got a titanium CF trim, for the interior, steering wheel, and hand brake, new sways, and I think I will get the rear LEDs too, and if I dont sell the CF splitters, have to put those on.
I am happy with my Dinan set up, but I want something that is more track oriented, teh Dinan is perfect for day to day though. Its Glenspeeds fault, his track event really got me hooked.
glenspeed
10-18-2004, 04:23 PM
Thats a good deal, but it wont do anythign for your car. They stopped selling the Gruppe M in North America, and the Carbino is based on that, so no worries. Oh, there i lots do to. Im changing out the suspension, already paid for and just waiting tilll I get back, my Brembos are sitting in my basement, I got a titanium CF trim, for the interior, steering wheel, and hand brake, new sways, and I think I will get the rear LEDs too, and if I dont sell the CF splitters, have to put those on.
I am happy with my Dinan set up, but I want something that is more track oriented, teh Dinan is perfect for day to day though. Its Glenspeeds fault, his track event really got me hooked.
it shouldn't be rocket science to source an ITG filter and intake tube to fit the M3 intake tract for way less than $650 US....we don't all have Pej's mod budget!
well, as soon as I get my suspension sorted I can enjoy the car again :crying: I will probably leave it until the spring and either go back to stock or get the TC Kline or Ground Control setup...after the 3rd alignment it's much better, harsh but better...
damn Pej, you have alot of mods sitting in your basement....what's your address again??? :blaaaa:
STALKER
10-18-2004, 04:42 PM
LOL, aint gonna tell. My mod budget is good, cause I dont spend money on anything else, lol. I get **** about it all the time from my GF. Glen, Im gonna get the GCs put in when I get back in Dec, with the sways though, you should test mine out first before you decied to go either way. I hear GC sways are amazing.
glenspeed
10-18-2004, 04:49 PM
LOL, aint gonna tell. My mod budget is good, cause I dont spend money on anything else, lol. I get **** about it all the time from my GF. Glen, Im gonna get the GCs put in when I get back in Dec, with the sways though, you should test mine out first before you decied to go either way. I hear GC sways are amazing.
Wait until you are married!
Yah I think using Koni based suspensions are the way to go (Dinan, GC, TCKline). I actually drove Mr D's car about 3 months ago with the Dinan stage 3 and it felt way less harsh than my stock suspension, so that was pretty surprising. The H&R's are way harsher. The only differences between TC Kline and GC are that GC uses sleeve overs and Eibach springs, whereas TC does not use sleeve overs and VVS springs. Apparently GC gets some of their shocks from TC Kline...I am not 100% sold on the GC sleeve over design though....
STALKER
10-18-2004, 04:55 PM
well, I will be selling my Dinan set up in Dec if you wan that.
glenspeed
10-18-2004, 05:00 PM
well, I will be selling my Dinan set up in Dec if you wan that.
I'll think about it and let you know...are the shocks adjustable? no height adjustment right?
STALKER
10-18-2004, 05:02 PM
Shocks are 12 way adjustable shocks, not height adjustment, and it comes with a front sway, and I throw in rear shock mounts for free. we still have a deal for the winter rims and tires?
glenspeed
10-18-2004, 05:05 PM
yep deal on the rims...decided I should use the Explorer rental money for more mods next year like you ha ha...
glenspeed
10-18-2004, 05:06 PM
which sway? I am looking for a 31mm front sway actually...
STALKER
10-18-2004, 05:23 PM
Its the one that came with it, I think its a 28mm one though, its not much thicker than stock, but it translates into something like 30% stiffer or somethng.
glenspeed
10-18-2004, 07:38 PM
I assume it is a Dinan one? hmm let me do some research..I was holding out for the H&R or Eibach one. so far just the front, I don't need to do the rear at this point. again I'm still using Dave's car as the benchmark...
STALKER
10-18-2004, 08:41 PM
ya, it is a Dinan one. I have a stage 2, which includes, 12 way adjustable shocks, springs and a front sway bar.
M333ee
10-19-2004, 07:29 AM
Dammmmm you guys are talking mods that I can't even dream about for a while... :(
Glenspeed is right Pej, wait till you get married.... :crying:
I have it the other way though. I loved the 330ci wife wanted M3. I wanted the M3 stock wife wants mods!!!!! You should have heard the big fights over HRE wheels. She wanted the USD 6000+ 843 in brushed :eek:
I don't have to hide mods from her. I have to make sure I like them after she has chosen them first :D It's her car anyway :crying:
christyles
10-19-2004, 07:41 AM
Dammmmm you guys are talking mods that I can't even dream about for a while... :(
Glenspeed is right Pej, wait till you get married.... :crying:
I have it the other way though. I loved the 330ci wife wanted M3. I wanted the M3 stock wife wants mods!!!!! You should have heard the big fights over HRE wheels. She wanted the USD 6000+ 843 in brushed :eek:
I don't have to hide mods from her. I have to make sure I like them after she has chosen them first :D It's her car anyway :crying:
OMG Eric. Wish God made more Bimmerwives like Jessica. You on the other hand, should just keep saying "yes dear... any mods you wanna get dear, even the HRE dear." Know your role to Filipino wives... just say yes all the time otherwise they stop cooking for you. ;) :wink2: :D
M333ee
10-19-2004, 07:53 AM
Pics that from Paul at Carbonio sent to me.
M333ee
10-19-2004, 07:55 AM
OMG Eric. Wish God made more Bimmerwives like Jessica. You on the other hand, should just keep saying "yes dear... any mods you wanna get dear, even the HRE dear." Know your role to Filipino wives... just say yes all the time otherwise they stop cooking for you. ;) :wink2: :D
I had to put my foot down someplace.... No 20" chrome teddy bear wheels :sick:
SmoothMoka
10-19-2004, 07:59 AM
OMG Eric. Wish God made more Bimmerwives like Jessica. You on the other hand, should just keep saying "yes dear... any mods you wanna get dear, even the HRE dear." Know your role to Filipino wives... just say yes all the time otherwise they stop cooking for you. ;) :wink2: :D
I second that!
E, I never knew it was that bad(or good). Just to let you know we are here for support...who am i kidding...you got it good brotha! Jess is the man! I mean wo-man!
M333ee
10-19-2004, 08:01 AM
I second that!
E, I never knew it was that bad(or good). Just to let you know we are here for support...who am i kidding...you got it good brotha! Jess is the man! I mean wo-man!
She knew more than the saleman about the M3 :D
He was so suprised at all the things she knew. Good thing she didn't bugg me to get the Carbonio. I kept on telling her the AFE flows better and gets more hp/$
I'm going more go than show :D So....no 20" bling wheels and fancy body mods.
BlueSky
10-19-2004, 08:39 AM
I had to put my foot down someplace.... No 20" chrome teddy bear wheels :sick:
Don't worry Eric... Jessica got taste... she wouldn't want 20" chrome teddy bear wheels...
SHE ONLY WANT HRE 843 in BRUSHED!!!
We want to see the 843s on your car too!!! :devil:
BlueSky
10-19-2004, 08:40 AM
OMG Eric. Wish God made more Bimmerwives like Jessica. You on the other hand, should just keep saying "yes dear... any mods you wanna get dear, even the HRE dear." Know your role to Filipino wives... just say yes all the time otherwise they stop cooking for you. ;) :wink2: :D
I third that too... is there a way to make all the wives/gfs as hardcore as Jessica??
glenspeed
10-19-2004, 08:47 AM
I just had a revelation looking at the Carbonio pics.
why don't they just sell the intake adaptor portion separately so that I can go find an larger ITG filter to fit and forget all the CF parts. It would be very close to the AFE design and I am sure at less than half the cost. I would expect the intake adaptor should not cost more than $200 even closer to $100 CAD I would think...
I can make my own heat shield out of aluminum or steel sheeting.
Can someone find out if they can do this?
glenspeed
10-19-2004, 08:50 AM
Dammmmm you guys are talking mods that I can't even dream about for a while... :(
Glenspeed is right Pej, wait till you get married.... :crying:
I have it the other way though. I loved the 330ci wife wanted M3. I wanted the M3 stock wife wants mods!!!!! You should have heard the big fights over HRE wheels. She wanted the USD 6000+ 843 in brushed :eek:
I don't have to hide mods from her. I have to make sure I like them after she has chosen them first :D It's her car anyway :crying:
Damn! The day I can spend $10000 CAD on just rims is the day I go buy a new Porsche!
M333ee
10-19-2004, 08:59 AM
Damn! The day I can spend $10000 CAD on just rims is the day I go buy a new Porsche!
I agree.... well maybe not Porsche.
My dream is a JDM Skyline GT-R :D
glenspeed
10-21-2004, 09:19 AM
can someone (who has a good relationship with) check with Carbonio if they will sell only the adaptor tube for the intake on the M3? I would think they could offer this part as a replacement item on their CF intake at a cheap price i.e. < $100
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