R-comps and Noobs

[who's ur daddy?]

Okay, not a total noob, but nooby enuf.

What happens when you pair a noob with R-comp tires? I know ultra good tires can mask noob mistakes, but I heard that R-comps let go at the limits without warning. Is that true? My current PS2's are great in that they are predictable and give very good audible and tactile feedback at the limit.

I've been out 3 times this season and hope to do 3 or 4 lapping events each year.

[STALKER]

I would stay on street tires.
I have 8 events under my belt, gonna be doing 2 more weekend events down here, and Im still on street tires. But you can get sticker street tires like the new Yoko advans, or the new Bridgestones. I used the Advans and they were amazing.

[Yorgi]

R-compound tires can still break away predictably at the limit, depending on the model. The big problem with n00bs + R-compounds is the fact that you can go a lot faster in the corners. If you make a mistake at higher speeds the odds are a lot higher that you will go off the track or worse.

[951kid]

you'll learn a lot more about what not to do when you're on streets. being able to get it out of shape at lower speeds is easier on noobs. after you get more comfortable with that, throw on some r-compounds.

[glenspeed]

with a noob, you are asking for trouble imo. learn to really drive with street tires and then graduate to R's. somebody like Yorgi on streets will smoke most noobs/advanced drivers with R's...

[STALKER]

with a noob, you are asking for trouble imo. learn to really drive with street tires and then graduate to R's. somebody like Yorgi on streets will smoke most noobs/advanced drivers with R's...
Don't forget to include yourself in that list homie. :thumbsup: :D

[who's ur daddy?]

Good advice all 'round I'm sure... it's just that I got a good deal on a used set of light rims with r-compounds... dammit.

[Yorgi]

If you've got them already I would use them. Just remember not to push yourself too hard.

R-compound tires get hard due to age much faster than street tires, so if the tires on your rims are a few years old, you may find they are not much better than street tires anyway.

[STALKER]

They are also more temp sensitive no?

[Yorgi]

They are also more temp sensitive no?Yup, most companies recommend you do not store r-compound tires in sub-zero conditions. And even some street tires like the Yokohama Neova come with the same advice.

[STALKER]

Yup, most companies recommend you do not store r-compound tires in sub-zero conditions. And even some street tires like the Yokohama Neova come with the same advice.
Ya, my Neovas had that recommendation. They were goot tires, just to $$$.

[glenspeed]

If you've got them already I would use them. Just remember not to push yourself too hard.

easier said than done!

[Yorgi]

easier said than done!Ya, for sure.

Since they are mounted, he could try them and see how sticky they are compared to what he is used to. If they are too much for him, we could take turns driving his car for him the rest of the day. :p

I would check the date codes on the side of the tire too.

[STALKER]

Glen and Rick are always so helpful and always ready to jump into someone's car and burn through their rubber, lol.

[who's ur daddy?]

Ya, for sure.

Since they are mounted, he could try them and see how sticky they are compared to what he is used to. If they are too much for him, we could take turns driving his car for him the rest of the day. :p




LOL. But then I'd get to drive your car too. And I last drove a stick about a year ago. So I'm game if you are!

[STALKER]

Im really torn right now about tires. Im on the fence of ordering some RA-1s(shaved and heat cycled) or get some Falken RT615s. The limit of my street tires was getting very apparent at Sebring.
But dont want to jump into R compounds to soon, the Falkens are suppose to be sticky, but at the same time, it might be time to get the R compounds.

[blue dragon]

^^ Just get the R comps. The break away on the RA1s is very progressive.

[STALKER]

^^ Just get the R comps. The break away on the RA1s is very progressive.
Im realy tempted, plus they are only $160USD a tires.
I thought we had a agreement about the track!!!!! Where is your name on the list.

[Yorgi]

I agree, just get the RA-1's. The best all around R-comp tire if you ask me. They last forever and can be driven to/from the track. They get better as they wear.

[STALKER]

I agree, just get the RA-1's. The best all around R-comp tire if you ask me. They last forever and can be driven to/from the track. They get better as they wear.
If I get them, Im gonna get them at the same place that Glen got his, they heat cycle them and shave them down too.

[glenspeed]

^^ Just get the R comps. The break away on the RA1s is very progressive.

and when are you coming to the track btw????

see the sign up thread...

[STALKER]

and when are you coming to the track btw????

see the sign up thread...
I think we should ban him till then. :angry: :eek:

Allow me.
http://www.e46toronto.ca/forums/showthread.php?p=86015#post86015

[glenspeed]

If I get them, Im gonna get them at the same place that Glen got his, they heat cycle them and shave them down too.

actually they are shaved, heat cycled and qualified on once, which is no biggie since when you get them they still have 4 lines in the tread which equates to 4/32" of depth. Very cool stepped tread pattern built into them so you can tell what the tread depth is just by looking at them. Brand new is 8/32" at full tread.

interesting info from Toyo, they say the RA1's should optimumly be stored completely deflated above 0 degrees

[webbie]

actually they are shaved, heat cycled and qualified on once, which is no biggie since when you get them they still have 4 lines in the tread which equates to 4/32" of depth. Very cool stepped tread pattern built into them so you can tell what the tread depth is just by looking at them. Brand new is 8/32" at full tread.

interesting info from Toyo, they say the RA1's should optimumly be stored completely deflated above 0 degrees

Can you pm me the shop?